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in Grand Rapids, MI Does the Grand Rapids Press have articles with Timothy Paul Nichols? rrested in Ohio a few years back. Was sentenced.

Where can I find the artical in the Grand Rapids Press "Hate Law Expanded"?

What is the name of the prosecutor in Watergate now living at the Grand Rapids Home for Veterans? He was featured in the Grand Rapids Press last year I believe.

Grand Rapids Press USA had this quote...? Any ideas a college professor has about money is almost certain to be theoretical. Any comments or similar quotes. Please keep to the spirit of the Quote

How will a raise in personal income tax affect you? I just read the Grand Rapids press and how we are in debt 1.1 billion dollars. Well they raised the personal income tax rate from 3.9 to 4.35 percent. I'm only 12, and I'm doing a report on this, so how will this affect us? It is a state tax rate, and according to the newspaper, it is just for Michigan, so that we can recover from our debt. So can you answer the question? How will a change in personal tax rate affect us?

Would Obama have more to talk about batteries if there was not a gridlock in Washington? We would have more battery jobs if there was less gridlock The Grand Rapids Press headline read: Obama`s speech was more about the gridlock then battery production.

Salons in Grand rapids Michigan for African american hair? I would like to get my hair pressed and flat ironed Any suggestions Thanx

Pie crust recipe? I'm looking for a specific pie crust recipe that includes the following ingredients: butter, shortening, egg yolk and milk. Can anyone help me? It is for a recipe called Danish Apple Squares that appeared in the Grand Rapids Press years ago. The crust is what really made this dessert extra yummy. Thanks!

where can i find this article "Hate Law Expanded"? this article "Hate Law Expanded" is from the Grand Rapids Press dated Nov 15 2008 section A3. i want to find it on the internet but am not sure where to find it. i tried looking for it on grpress.com but couldnt find anything. please help me find it i need to write an essay on it. TY any help is appreciated! :D

Should TEACHERS PACK SOME HEAT IN DANGEROUS SCHOOLS? (Share your thoughts)? Michigan Lawmaker Proposes Teachers Be Allowed To Carry Guns In Classrooms September 10, 2007 9:46 a.m. EST Ayinde O. Chase - AHN Staff Grand Rapids, MI (AHN) - Rep. David Agema, a lawmaker from Michigan is proposing a new bill that would allow teachers to be armed with guns. The rationale for the proposal is that teachers need guns to defend students from attacks by both terrorists and other students. Agema, a Republican from West Michigan, said he believes the measure would save lives, the UPI report on Monday. "Right now, the only people who enter school with guns are people who intend to do harm," Agema was quoted as saying by The Grand Rapids (Mich.) Press. "I believe it will save lives if a kid or somebody comes into a school and starts shooting again." Apparently he's not alone; the measure has garnered support from 15 other House members. However school officials whose schools the guns would be in are horrified by the suggestion that teachers need to be packing heat in schoolrooms. I'm just left speechless by this," Grand Rapids Superintendent Bernard Taylor was quoted as saying by the Grand Rapids Press. "It hurts to hear we've come to this, that we're so afraid of children that we think we need to be armed to work with them." He continued, "If that's what we've come to, I need to find a new line of work." According to Agema`s bill the legislation would allow teachers, administrators or other school employees to carry concealed weapons on school grounds if they have a state permit to carry one and have permission from their school administrator.

Obits. from Stroo Funeral home in Cutlerville on Donna DeVos? Death notice from in Grand Rapids Press Nov. 13, or 14th on a Donna DeVos from Cutlerville. She was 77 years old

Did You see Feds nab illegal immigrants in western Michigan? South Bend Tribune ^ | September 15. 2006 | JAMES PRICHARD Associated Press GRAND RAPIDS — Federal immigration officials have completed a five-day sweep of western Michigan in which they apprehended 54 fugitive illegal immigrants who had disappeared after receiving deportation orders. They also captured an illegal immigrant with an extensive criminal history who had illegally re-entered the United States after being removed, officials at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Thursday. The initiative, dubbed "Operation Return to Sender," started Sept. 8 and ended Wednesday. The agency focused its efforts within the triangle formed by Lansing, Grand Rapids and Battle Creek.The sweep was part of an "interior immigration enforcement strategy" Burma, Cambodia, China, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Guatemala, Honduras, Indonesia, Korea, Mexico, Nicaragua, Turkey and Yugoslavia.Ain't diversity grand? And angela R they're just here to work 24hrs a day and send 90% of their money back to their wife, 20kids and 100yo grandmother. Oh the pain and heartache! Plus even more STILLMORE, Ga. — Trailer parks lie abandoned. The poultry plant is scrambling to replace more than half its workforce. Business has dried up at stores where Mexican laborers once lined up to buy food, beer and cigarettes just weeks ago. This Georgia community of about 1,000 people has become little more than a ghost town since Sept. 1, when federal agents began rounding up illegal immigrants. The sweep has had the unintended effect of underscoring just how vital the illegal immigrants were to the local economy. More than 120 illegal immigrants have been loaded onto buses bound for immigration courts. (Anne AA (You are ignorant. My family is full of illegals. Not one of them is a criminal.) You are ignorant illegal is a criminal or have you rewrote the laws in your lil never,never land?

Isn't this so tragic? 8th Mich. Resident Dies From Harsh Weather A Grand Rapids man is the eighth person in nine days to be found dead in the Michigan cold. The body of 52-year-old Thomas Pauli was found this week in the snow at an auto salvage business in Grand Rapids. Investigators are trying to determine the cause of death, but it doesn't appear to be suspicious. The eight victims were found dead in the cold between Jan. 17 and Jan. 26, when Pauli's body was discovered. Four were older than 80. The Grand Rapids Press reports seven of the eight victims were found outside. Many apparently fell on their own property and couldn't get up. Ninety-three-year-old Marvin Schur froze to death inside his Bay City home just days after the municipal power company restricted his use of electricity because of unpaid bills.

help with this? On August 19, 2003, The Grand Rapids Press reported new discount rates on Treasury bills. A 3-month $10,000 bill sold for $9,976.10. What was the percent return to the investor? Round to the nearest hundredth percent.

Do you think a Gay Man should be able to sue what is written in the Bible? A homosexual man is suing a major Christian publisher for violating his constitutional rights and causing emotional pain, because its Bible versions refer to homosexuality as a sin. Bradley LaShawn Fowler, 39, of Canton, Mich., is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing in lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, the Grand Rapids Press reported. Fowler filed his claim against Grand Rapids-based Zondervan yesterday, alleging its Bibles' references to homosexuality as a sin have made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of "demoralization, chaos and bewilderment," the paper said http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69147

Dog Section: Do you Like a Happy ending? I posted this story about Minnow the bait dog and it was removed. So I will try again. Here is the link. http://www.mlive.com/living/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2010/04/unleashed_minnow_former_bait_d.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+grpress+%28The+Grand+Rapids+Press+Latest+News+%7C+MLive.com%29 My question is how do you think this little terrier survived being up against Pit Bulls? I guess with that kind of torment, it is a good thing dogs do not think and rationalize as we do! He is really cute and his personality just shines through in this picture. @M - Sorry if you felt it was misleading, you must have missed the other two posts. In comparison, it is a happy ending.

Is Manny Pacquiao hiding something? David Mayo Columns, Mayweather Stories, Sports - All Regions, Statewide » Manny Pacquiao only fueling the Mayweathers' fire by refusing random blood tests By David Mayo | The Grand Rapids Press December 24, 2009, 3:05PM The longer this impasse goes, the worse it looks for Manny Pacquiao. If you’re really the pound-for-pound king, if you’re really not using performance-enhancers, then you do exactly what Floyd Mayweather asks. You get yourself poked with a needle on a handful of occasions -- certainly fewer times than Pacquiao has been poked with a tattoo needle -- then make Mayweather pay for his arrogance on the night of March 13. If you’re the pound-for-pound king, and you didn’t get that way through sophisticated doping techniques for which you know there are masking methods and/or no urine detection technology, you give up a few drops of blood without any knowledge when you might be asked to do so, a few times between now and the fight, then you do your job. If you’re the pound-for-pound king, you step up and make yourself heard on this issue, and quit letting your promoter and your trainer bellow that Mayweather’s demand is a method of seeking a way to avoid the fight. Mayweather, the Grand Rapids native, agreed to every contractual tenet. He accepted a 50-50 split, even though his pay-per-view fights against common opponents greatly outsold Pacquiao’s. He agreed to pay Pacquiao a $10 million penalty if he comes in even half-a-biscuit or one swallow of his beloved Mountain Dew heavier than the 147-pound limit. That’s astounding, given that Mike Tyson was fined $3 million for biting a chunk out of Evander Holyfield’s ear. All he asked for in return was random blood testing. AP File PhotoThere's been a lot of spin put out there by Manny Pacquiao's promoter Bob Arum. But will they really turn down a possible $40 million payday over random blood drug testing?And Pacquiao wouldn’t comply. The longer it goes on, the more we start to sneer at the Filipino idol and wonder why. Bob Arum, Pacquiao’s promoter, has been busy at work spinning public favor in his fighter’s direction. And Freddie Roach, Pacquiao’s trainer, has lambasted Mayweather for a demand that he somehow deems disruptive to training. Forget that Pacquiao has endured any number of pinpricks for tattoos, including one he got just before his most recent fight, against Miguel Cotto, who declared the Filipino the hardest puncher he ever faced after getting knocked out by him, which certainly arched some eyebrows among the performance-enhancing theorists, considering the 40-pound gap Pacquiao has traversed since turning professional. Forget that since the fight fell apart Tuesday night because of the drug-testing issue, a number of experts have declared it ridiculous that Pacquiao was willing to undergo blood testing on a set schedule, but not at all within 30 days of the fight, and that the top executive of the U.S. Anti-Doping Association told the Los Angeles Times such a schedule would allow plenty of time to “dope to the gills and get away with it.” That’s what Pacquiao’s side wants everyone to forget. Well, here’s a suggestion: Random means random, and if you don’t submit, you only fuel the fire the Mayweathers have been pumping with bellows for the last three months. We’re talking about a few drops of blood every few weeks. Within a few minutes, anyone who has blood drawn for a drug test has fully regenerated it. Any assertion that Pacquiao might be weakened because he has blood drawn a few times in a 10-week period before a fight is either deception or ignorance. But not both. Here’s another suggestion: Set the pre-fight testing schedule so both fighters get tested randomly once between Jan. 1-15, again between Jan. 16-31, again between Feb. 1-15, and once more between Feb. 16-March 6. That guarantees no testing in the final seven days before the fight, only four pre-fight tests in total, and the randomness which is at the core of the Mayweather camp’s demands. ARE YOU ON TWITTER? Follow David Mayo at twitter.com/David_Mayo Here’s another suggestion: Let the drug-testers stand there every day during sparring, and the first time Pacquiao gets a fat lip or bloody nose, just squeeze some into a vial. That’s how asinine the Pacquiao camp’s claims look in a business where lost blood is a day-to-day job hazard. Failing that, someone really is weaseling out of the fight. And that someone isn’t Floyd Mayweather.

Anyone Concerned? I just read an article in my local newspaper (the Grand Rapids Press) that explained a new bit of legislation to be set in action starting in November. Apparently, there is a new EPA requirement that will call for all recreational boaters (sail, fishing...everything) to pay for a Federal Water Pollution Permit for all Indicental Operational Discharges (this is a fancy way of talking about engine cooling water, deck runoff, and the like). I personally agree with the author of the article in saying we need to take action about this by writing to our congressmen. These requirements were originally designed for larger, ocean-going vessels, and are absolutely ridiculous to enforce for recreational boats. In fact, these have been exempt from personal watercraft since the 70's, when the EPA issued a common-sense exclusion. Let's try to keep it that way. This will be national...not just Michigan.

What Do You Think of this? Guess the turkey was on the run!? HUDSONVILLE, Mich. - An Ottawa County sheriff's deputy in Michigan who was responding to a report of a suspected intruder at a Hudsonville home shouted a warning to surrender, then released her K-9 dog inside. Deputy Sarah Flick tells The Grand Rapids Press "you could hear banging on the walls and the dog growling." She then kicked down the door to a bedroom where she had seen a broken window and found the intruder: a turkey. Flick called off the German shepherd. Animal control responded to get the bird. Twenty-eight-year-old Melissa Spoelma had fled the home Saturday morning when she heard a window break. Spoelma says she called 911 and then her husband, who was out of town getting ready for Michigan's spring turkey hunting season.

Helping finding an old news article? I'm in the discussion category of the MSHSL Speech "team" and when we recieved our outlines they gave us a small bibliography of sources they want us to look at and I cannot find this particular news article (no librarians could find it for me either): Wylie, Margie. "Entrepreneurs Claim Parts of the Moon as Their Own ; No Law Says Individuals Cannot Own -- or Sell -- Space Prperty. So for 20 Bucks, a Dubious Deed to Lunar Real Estate Can Be Yours." /The Grand Rapids Press./ 15 Feb. 2004: A.9. Print If anyone can find me the full text of the article (along with the link) that would be superfantastic. I've exhausted all my resource, including ProQuest (which has electronic forms of archived newspapers). I've already asked research librarians for help and they best they can find me is a citation of the article, but cannot find the actual text article... Everything my school has subscriptions to doesn't have the article.

Does anyone know of a hair salon in Grand Rapids mi that can handle African American hair? I've been searching for a while now and have had no luck. I need a salon in GR (preferably one that can be reached by bus) that has experience washing, pressing, cutting and styling "black" hair. I am in need for a trim and to get my hair flat ironed and most places only specialize in "shampoo and blow-dry" which I know is not what I'm looking for. btw, my hair is curly 3c/4a atm, a salon that works with this type of curly hair could also work. Thanks a lot in advance!

How long should pie-throwing 23-year-old be imprisoned? Attacking Senator at Big Rapids, MI? What should be the punishment and time in prison/jail for this anti-war protester? 10 points for best analysis and polite posting. . .Happy New 2011 ! FROM Associated Press details : An anti-war protester who hit Michigan Sen. Carl Levin in the face with an apple pie has been charged with assault. An indictment filed Thursday charges Ahlam Mohsen of Coldwater with two counts of assault against the Democrat while he was meeting with constituents in August in Big Rapids. Her friend Max Kantar of Big Rapids was also charged. U.S. Attorney Don Davis in Grand Rapids says elected leaders should be able to listen to constituents without being attacked. Messages seeking comment were left for Mohsen and Kantar, who are both 23. Mohsen's father Mohamed Mohsen says she's unaware of the indictment. Levin spokeswoman Tara Andringa said he wasn't immediately available for comment Thursday. At the time of the incident, the senator said his critics were hurting their cause. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is this WORKS CITED page good? Works Cited Buchanan, Mark. "Trapped in the Cult of the Next Thing." Christianity Today 6 September 1999. Dudley, William, ed. The Environment: Opposing Viewpoints. San Diego, CA: Greenhaven Press, 2001. "Genesis 1:28." Holy Bible: New Interntional Version. Grand Rapids, MI :Zondervan Press, 2001. Hennen, Aimee. "Christians and Consumerism." 2 March 2009. www.agrarianbible.com. 2 November 2010 <http://www.agrarianbible.com/Principles%20&%20Notions/DB27061C-92C8-4F6A-B539-65417890F122.html>. Mertz, Sarah A. "The Power of Fair Trade." Co-op America's Guid to Fair Trade Novemver 2010: 4-7. Motavalli, Jim. "Charging Ahead." E Magazine September 2010: 22-28. "Romans 12:2." Holy Bible: New International Version. Grand Rapids, MI :Zondervan Press, 2001. i know what is supposed to be underlined....it just wont show up on here

What is UR opioion on this Article Wyoming family's separation punctuates push for immigration reform? Do U believe the system is broken or do you believe that disobeying our immigration the laws is why this happened in the first place ? GRAND RAPIDS -- When labor, civil rights and religious leaders gathered today to call for immigration reform, their effort was encapsulated in the ordeal of Mandy Evangelista, who with her husband, Jose, traveled to Mexico so he could finally legalize his status. That was five years ago. Since then, Mandy and their children Jorge, 11, Marisol, 7, and Perla, 5, have had to live without Jose, communicating only via telephone after his residency was denied and he was kept out of the U.S. "For a mother having your child wake up in the middle of the night, asking where daddy is ... there's just no explanation," said Evangelista, 29, of Wyoming. Evangelista is among a group of labor, civil rights and religious leaders launching a statewide campaign to promote immigration reform. Today, the Michigan Coalition part of Reform Immigration for America held press conferences in Grand Rapids, Detroit, Pontiac and Lansing to promote their call for comprehensive immigration reform. Advocates said there needs to be legislation that will create a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants; reform the visa system to clear backlogs and to replace illegal immigration with orderly, legal immigration; and enhance border security and protect workers from unscrupulous employers. During the press conference in Grand Rapids, Luis Pena, a former trustee for Grand Rapids Public Schools, said reform is needed so more people seeking a legal way to enter the country can do so. Now the system is so complicated that many families, like the Evangelistas, are kept apart, sometimes for 10 to 20 years. Having a system that's easier to navigate would improve the country's safety while answering the needs of employees, he added. "We need a system that's easier to go through than to go around," Pena said. Agreeing was Kate Kooyman, from the office of social justice with the Christian Reform Church. She said illegal immigration is first and foremost a humanitarian issue, and that to deport about 13 million undocumented workers living in this country is unrealistic. "We can't do that and we shouldn't do that," she said. "Mass deportation is impossible. It won't work." Marv Russow, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Local 951, said protecting the rights of some workers will ensure that all workers are treated equally in the country and will prevent abuse of unscrupulous employers. While President Barack Obama has said he will not try to pass immigration reform until a health care bill has been dealt with, advocates and grassroots organizations have been mobilizing for months to push for immigration reform. For Mandy Evangelista, each day without her husband is a missed day in their children's lives. "When he was here, he took Jorge (their oldest) to school the first day," she said. Now her youngest daughter just celebrated her fifth birthday -- and all of them have been without her father. "He's lost every single moment in his children's lives for the last five years. You can't get that back," she said. http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/08/wyoming_familys_separation_pun.html

Do you know the date Jerusalem was destroyed about 600 years before Christ? One of the reoccurring dates in a particular sect’s publications is 1914 (the name of the sect is not important as I only want to know about the facts). In the past it has had many meanings, including the end of the world and after that failed; the start of the end became the new meaning for the date. But that has now become the date of Christ’s presence. To arrive at this date they need some very fancy mathematics and interpretations, at which, they are very experienced. Anyway they need to start at the fall of Jerusalem in 607BC for everything to work. Therefore, the date 607 BC becomes the critical date in question Question 1. Do you know if 607 BC the date when Jerusalem fell? One statement I found says, “No, it wasn't. No Bible scholar and no archaeological scholar hold to that date. The correct date is 586 B.C., not 607 B.C”. If that statement is true then this sect is wrong about 1914 and everything else they attach to that date. I have found many references to the date but I will not list them all due to the length of the question. All references give the date as 586 or 587 BC, nothing even close to 607BC. "the period from the fall of Jerusalem (586 B.C.) to the reconstruction in Palestine of a new Jewish state (after 538 B.C.)." (Encyclopedia.com) "Biblical Archaeological Review, Biblical Archaeological Review Unger, Merrill, F., Unger's Bible Dictionary, Moody Press, Chicago, 1966, page 782. The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia, Eerdmans, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1982, page 1016) Question 2. Do you believe with all these references that it would be the correct date? With these references it seems quite clear that this sect is wrong about the 607 B.C. date upon which they place so much of their end times theology. Question 3. If they are wrong about such a basic event and have not changed their error to match historical fact, how can they be trusted to represent biblical truth? I think that they can not change their date of 1914 because they have so much invested in it. They are forced to retain their 607 BC date even though it is in obvious error. To admit they were wrong is to undermine the whole credibility and truth of their publications and their mother organization. This they cannot do because they are more dedicated to their organization than they are to the truth. Question 4. What do you believe.

Evidence and the New Testament.? Evidence of the Reliability of the New Testament: 1. There are 25,000 copies of ancient manuscripts that contain either portion or all of the New Testament. None of them contradict each other. These are also written in different languages, cultures, and times. So that's a lot of room for mistakes when none were found. Homer's Iliad only has 643 copies. Yet no one seems to doubt what was written by him. 2. Archeology is reliable in the New Testament: Interesting archaeological finds include: Pontius Pilate Inscription – oldest appearance of Pilate’s name to be found. Caiaphas’s Family Tomb – The name of the priest who brought Jesus to trial before the crucifixion was Caiaphas. Politarch Inscriptions – once though by critics to be a mistake in the Bible, the technical term “politarch” has now been found in several places throughout the Roman empire. Erastus Inscription – In 1929 archaeologists found a five-foot-long carving of the name Erastus who was the city treasurer in the city of Corinth and mentioned in Romans 16:23 One of the most important Romans historians is Tacitus. In 115 A.D. he recorded Nero's persecution of the Christians, in the process of which he wrote the following: Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, . . . but even in Rome.{3} There are over 39 extra-biblical sources that attest to over one hundred facts regarding the life and teachings of Jesus Some sources: See "Authority of the Bible" at www.probe.docs/auth-bib.html. Josephus, Book 18, Chapter 3:3 Tacitus, Annals, 15.44 Julius Africanus, Chronography, 18:1. Ibid. William Ramsay, St. Paul the Traveler and the Roman Citizen (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books, 1982), 8. John McRay, Archaeology and the New Testament (Grand Rapids, MI.: Baker Books, 1991), 227. Norman Geisler, Baker Encyclopedia of Apologetics (Grand Rapids, MI.: Baker Books, 1999), 47. A. N. Sherwing-White, Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1963), 189 I mean the list goes on and on. You can take a look into the Culture side and see the things that Jesus said matched up with the times and the places of the times. His stories told ( ex. City on a Hill cannot be hidden.) Are found to be correct because of the cities that surrouned the Sea of Galilee. The New Testament in itself and the Gospel's seem to be accurate and have stood the test in History. You can believe what you want about Jesus but it is clear that the authors of the NT knew what they were talking about. What are some of your thoughts? You can email me for more thought out and organized answers if you wish my friends. Dream asked a question on this and I told Him that I would answer on here to give him more room to ask questions and email me. :) Sorry for not asking more of a question than I did :) Copy Machine by people that never talked to each other. Interesting thought. And no, the New Testament does not contradict itself. You can copy and paste all you want my friends. I'll answer :) And as far as the sources being debunked. What are your sources? Nazareth was found to have had people and aritifacts from that time in the early 80's my friend. Source: Chad Emmit Below from Acta Pilati (Pilates report to Caesar)..from Archko Volume. Located in the Vatican Archives Pilate reported that for some reason many of the dead were reported seen in their grave clothes. Research it. :) Here is part of the entry: "To Tiberius Caesar, Emperor of Rome. Noble Sovereign, Greeting: The events of the last few days in my province have been of such a character that I will give the details in full as they occurred, "He said that about the beginning of the fourth watch they saw a soft and beautiful light over the sepulcher. He at first thought that the women had come to embalm the body of Jesus, as was their custom, but he could not see how they could have gotten through the guards. While these thoughts were passing through his mind, behold, the whole place was lighted up, and there seemed to be crowds of the dead in their grave clothes. All seemed to be shouting and filled with ecstasy, while all around and above was the most beautiful music he had ever heard; and the whole air seemed to be voices praising God."

Is there non-biblical evidence of a day of darkness at Christ's death? So what are your thoughts on this. In Luke 23:44-46 there is the record of darkness falling upon the land during Christ's crucifixion. "And it was now about the sixth hour, and darkness fell over the whole land until the ninth hour, 45the sun being obscured; and the veil of the temple was torn in two. 46And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, "Father, into Thy hands I commit My spirit." And having said this, He breathed His last." Is there any non-biblical evidence of the day of darkness mentioned at Christ's death? The answer is yes, there is. Julius Africanus, Extant Writings, XVIII in the Ante–Nicene Fathers, ed. by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1973), vol. VI, p. 130. as cited in Habermas, Gary R., The Historical Jesus: Ancient Evidence for the Life of Christ, (Joplin, MO: College Press Publishing Company) 1996.

What do you think of this quotation from Galileo? "I do not think one has to believe that the same God who has given us senses, language and intellect would want to set aside the use of these and give us by other means the information we can acquire with them, so that we would deny our senses and reason even in the case of the physical conclusions which are placed before our eyes and intellect by sensory experiences or by necessary demonstrations." - "Galileo's Letter to the Grand Duchess," in The Galileo Affair: A Documentary History, ed. Maurice A Finocchiaro (Berkely: University of California Press, 1989) 92-94, as quoted in Mark A. Noll, The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind (Grand Rapids: William B. Eerdman's Publishing Co., 1994) 205-6

Anyone deny? "The existence of the historical Jesus is accepted as fact by the vast majority of scholars." ? At various times I have casually mentioned on this forum the simple (and I had assumed, indisputable) fact that Jesus was an historical person whose life on earth led to the Christian belief system. I was surprised to see that a small but vocal group on R&S refused to believe that the existence of the historical Jesus is the predominant belief among university scholars of religious studies and ancient history. My experience has been that those who hold "fringe views" here will very rarely yield to documentation/evidence even while supposedly clamoring loudly for it. Yet, in addition to my own experience as a member of the relevant academic societies (and my own experience publishing in the field), I thought I would post a few such citations just to see how they would be denied. (And to state what should be obvious: This topic has NOTHING to do with the question of whether one has faith in Jesus OR even if one personally believes that the historical Jesus of the first century actually existed. My point is purely to see if it is possible to document the simple fact that the majority of my colleagues around the world accept the existence of the historical Jesus as fact, with basically no reservations.) So here's a few citations: 1) Graham Stanton, *The Gospels and Jesus* (Oxford University Press, 2nd ed., 2002), p. 145. "Today nearly all historians, whether Christians or not, accept that Jesus existed and that the gospels contain plenty of valuable evidence which has to be weighed and assessed critically. There is general agreement that, with the possible exception of Paul, we know far more about Jesus of Nazareth than about any first- or second century Jewish or pagan religious teacher." 2) Robert E. Van Voorst, *Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence* (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 2000), p. 16. "The nonhistoricity thesis has always been controversial, and it has consistently failed to convince scholars of many disciplines and religious creeds" "Biblical scholars and classical historians now regard it as effectively refuted." 3) Burridge, R & Gould, G, *Jesus Now and Then* , Wm. B. Eerdmans, 2004, p.34. "There are those who argue that Jesus is a figment of the Church's imagination, that there never was a Jesus at all. I have to say that I do not know any respectable critical scholar who says that any more." So, to pose the question again: Despite the evidence, would anyone here deny that the existence of the historical Jesus is accepted as fact by the vast majority of scholars (whether secular or non-secular, whether atheist, Christian, Jewish, or whatever)? _______________________ PREDICTION: Even though the skeptics always ask for evidence/documentation, they will also complain that this post is too long (because of the citations!) _______________________ PLEASE: Focus _______________________ QUESTION: What is the difference between theists and atheists in how they deal with evidence? ANSWER: None. . _______________________ My favorite so far: The idea that university Religious Studies departments are filled with pious believers! Observation: On R&S, if you don't like a question, substitute one that is more to your personal preference. _______________________ KUDOS to those of you who figured this one out already: "vast majority of scholars" is acceptable when the topic is evolution or global warming -- but somehow turns bad when the topic is less to someone's liking.

Why do these Greek scholars translate John 1:1 "..and the word was a god"? or "divine" or "deity"? W. E. Vine - "a god was the Word" - p. 490, An Expository Dictionary of the New Testament. C. H. Dodd - "The Word was a god" - Technical Papers for the Bible Translator, Jan., 1977. Murray J. Harris - "the Word was a god" - p. 60, Jesus as God, Baker Book House, 1992. Robert Young - "and a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word" - Young's Concise Critical Bible Commentary. "And the Word was divine." - An American Translation, 19th impr., 1975. “and the word was a god” (Newcome, 1808) “the Word was God’s” (Crellius,as quoted in The New Testament in an Improved Version) “and the Word was a divine being.” (La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel,1928) “the Logos was a god (John Samuel Thompson, The Montessoran; or The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists, Baltimore; published by the translator, 1829) “the Word was divine” (Goodspeed’s An American Translation, 1939) “the word was a god.” (Revised Version-Improved and Corrected) “and god[-ly/-like] was the Word.” (Prof. Felix Just, S.J. - Loyola Marymount University) “the Word was God*[ftn. or Deity, Divine, which is a better translation, because the Greek definite article is not present before this Greek word] (International English Bible-Extreme New Testament, 2001) “and the Word was a god” (Reijnier Rooleeuw, M.D. -The New Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, translated from the Greek, 1694) “[A]s a god the Command was” (Hermann Heinfetter, A Literal Translation of the New Testament,1863) “The Word was a God” (Abner Kneeland-The New Testament in Greek and English, 1822) “[A]nd a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word” (Robert Young, LL.D. (Concise Commentary on the Holy Bible [Grand Rapids: Baker, n.d.], 54). 1885) “the Word was a god” (Belsham N.T. 1809) “And the logos was a god” (Leicester Ambrose, The Final Theology, Volume 1, New York, New York; M.B. Sawyer and Company, 1879) “the Word was Deistic [=The Word was Godly] (Charles A.L. Totten, The Gospel of History, 1900) ”[A]nd was a god” (J.N. Jannaris, Zeitschrift fur die Newtestameutlich Wissencraft, (German periodical) 1901, International Bible Translators N.T. 1981) “[A] Divine Person.” (Samuel Clarke, M.A., D.D., rector of St. James, Westminster, A Paraphrase on the Gospel of John, London) “a God” (Lant Carpenter, LL.D (in Unitarianism in the Gospels [London: C. Stower, 1809], 156).) “a God” (Paul Wernle,(in The Beginnings of Christianity, vol. 1, The Rise of Religion [1903], 16).) “and the [Marshal] [Word] was a god.” (21st Century Literal) [A]nd (a) God was the word” (George William Horner, The Coptic Version of the New Testament, 1911) “[A]nd the Word was of divine nature” (Ernest Findlay Scott, The Literature of the New Testament, New York, Columbia University Press, 1932) [T]he Word was a God” (James L. Tomanec, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, 1958) “The Word had the same nature as God” (Philip Harner, JBL, Vol. 92, 1974) “And a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word” (Siegfried Schulz, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1975) “and godlike sort was the Logos” (Johannes Schneider, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1978) “the Word was a divine Being” (Scholar’s Version-The Five Gospels, 1993) “The Divine word and wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was” (J. Madsen, New Testament A Rendering , 1994) “a God/god was the Logos/logos” (Jurgen Becker, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1979) “The Word/word was itself a divine Being/being.” (Curt Stage, The New Testament, 1907) “the Word was of divine kind” (Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology), 1945) “was of divine Kind/kind” (Fredrich Pfaefflin, The New Testament, 1949) “godlike Being/being had the Word/word” (Albrecht, 1957) “the word of the world was a divine being” (Smit, 1960) “God(=godlike Being/being) was the Word/word” (Menge, 1961) “divine (of the category divinity)was the Logos” (Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk), 1984) “And the Word was divine.” (William Temple, Archbishop of York, Readings in St. John’s Gospel, London, Macmillan & Co.,1933) “the word was with Allah[God] and the word was a god” (Greek Orthodox /Arabic Calendar, incorporating portions of the 4 Gospels, Greek Orthodox Patriarchy or Beirut, May, 1983) “And the Word was Divine” (Ervin Edward Stringfellow (Prof. of NT Language and Literature/Drake University, 1943) “and the Logos was divine (a divine being)” (Robert Harvey, D.D., Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Westminster College, Cambridge, in The Historic Jesus in the New Testament Trinitarians accused Jehovah's Witnesses of mistranslating John 1:1 in the NWT. Yet all these Greek scholars translate this scripture much the same way as the NWT does. Is it only Trinitarians "scholars" who insist that John 1

Do you live in these Michigan Counties (Oakland, others)? Today is MICHIGAN GOP Primary voting day -- did you vote whether you live in Western Michigan, or Eastern or the U.P. ? Here's how the WASHINGTON (D.C.) POST analyzes what the Michigan Counties are needed for a Romney Win and how will a Romney Loss take place: * Kent County: Western Michigan is the home to social conservatives in the state and, as such, should be strong territory for former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum. But, Kent includes the city of Grand Rapids and its affluent suburbs, which are packed with businesspeople jonesing to beat President Obama in the fall. And, as a further complication for Santorum, Rep. Justin Amash, the freshman Republican who represents Kent in Congress, has endorsed Texas Rep. Ron Paul. If there is a county in Western Michigan that Romney can win, it’s Kent. * Macomb County: The northeastern suburb of Detroit is the home to the Reagan Democrat — blue-collar voters who went for Republicans in the 1980s but have moved toward Democrats in subsequent elections. Romney won Macomb by almost 16,000 votes over Arizona Sen. John McCain in the 2008 Michigan primary but Santorum is running hard as an economic populist while the former Massachusetts governor has made a number of impolitic comments about his own wealth. Romney’s difficulties in connecting with working-class voters could come home to roost in Macomb. * Marquette County: The U.P. — Upper Peninsula — of Michigan is not a place that sees all that many presidential candidates. It’s hard to get to and there just aren’t that many votes in the far northern counties of the state. (Marquette is the largest city in the U.P.- based 1st district and its population is just 21,000 or so.) But, Santorum made a series of stops in the U.P. on Sunday — he appeared on NBC’s “Meet the Press” between those stops — and touted the similarities between the U.P. and where he grew up in Western Pennsylvania. This was also one of the counties where McCain beat Romney in 2008, suggesting Yoopers don’t have any special affection for their native son. * Oakland County: When asked to name five counties worth paying attention to tonight, one Republican operative said: “Oakland, Oakland, Oakland, Oakland and Oakland”. It’s that important — particularly to Romney’s chances of winning the state. Oakland is the wealthy Detroit suburb full of the sort of fiscally conservative, socially moderate Republicans that must be Romney voters — and in big numbers. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/the-michigan-primary-five-counties-to-watch/2012/02/28/gIQAluTCgR_blog.html 10 points for best analysis and polite posting -- will you be watching the ELECTION VOTED numbers as they come in late this evening and night ? ? ?

Your reaction to Ring of Honor Shows coming to 8 New Markets? Associated Press IRVINE, Calif. — Freedom Communications says it's closed the sale of its eight television stations, including one in Texas, to Sinclair Broadcast Group in a $385 million deal. The transaction delivers to Baltimore-based Sinclair KFDM of Beaumont, Texas; WPEC-TV of West Palm Beach, Fla.; WWMT of Grand Rapids-Kalamazoo-Battle Creek, Mich.; WRGB and WCWN Albany, N.Y.; WTVC of Chattanooga, Tenn.; WLAJ of Lansing, Mich.; and KTVL of Medford-Klamath Falls, Ore. Newspaper and broadcast industry struggles with ad sale declines left Freedom in Chapter 11 protection for seven months ending April 2010. Irvine, Calif.-based Freedom said in a Monday statement the sale leaves it "essentially debt free." Freedom owns 100 newspapers, including four in West and South Texas. Sinclair now has 74 television stations in 45 markets, including Austin, San Antonio and Beaumont in Texas. http://online.wsj.com/article/APc4eecd35b3874061aaccce1bc1b38cf4.html

What are some tips you have for a campaign aimed for Governor? First off, thanks alot for any help you have with this. In my Freshmen Government And Civics class, we're doing a mock campaign, and I was assigned Campaign Manager for my group. We were assigned the Republican party, and need to 'win' the party primaries against 2 other groups. At the moment, my objective is to schedule days 4-6 of our 15-day campaign before the primaries take place. We're polling 14%, and the other 2 are doing 18%, with the other 50% undecided. We have HQ in Grand Rapids, MI, and have visited the cities of Flint, Holland, and Alpena in our 3 days. We've got something like $1.3m left in our budgets, and have appeared in/on radio and newspapers. We've organized a rally and a press conference. So my question is this. Where should we go and what should we do to bring our polls, and our grades up? Is there any other type of thing we should do besides give speeches? If you know any, please list a few Republican areas in Michigan. Again, thanks in advance.

PLLZ help what do you think about this romantic piece of writing?!?!? if u dont like it then dont h8 on me just say wuts rong with it k? o and it might b a little confusing (the plot) if it is then just read the story and tell me if its good writing thx A regular high school girl, Erin Jaquleen, fals in "love at first sight" when she goes on an interview show with Seth Hunt,(looks a exaclly like taylor lautner yup im one of those huge TL fans i lov him haha) a ssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupppppppper hot celeb who plays the best friend of a girl who moves to the Grand Rapids, Michigan. her father dies so she needs to live with her mother. her mother Cathrine Majeskie. is realy poor then gets cancer and dies. she runs away with her bff, Jake Taylor, who's mother died when he was 10. his father who is in a wheel chair finally dies when his wheel chair rolls away and he falls down the stairs. (back to seth out of movie) seth has (OF COURSE) taylor l's smile (dazzling, startling, attractive, sparkeling, pearl white, magical, beautiful, just a miracle i cant even explain it its just...taylor lautner!!!) caramel colored skin, short/messy/ hair, dark, deep, eyes :p long eyelashes, rly rly ripped well, lets just say he is taylor lautner in every description. (im judging tl by how he talks in interviews. down to earth, good, amazing, the guy of every human femail on earth's dreams.) anyway wen the girl is at the show and she and her friends Cassidy, Michelle, and Carlie are surprised by Seth and the person who plays the girl in the movie, Shiela Darling, come out to be the surprise guests. ikr if that happened 2 me i would die. so when seth walks on, smiling that dazzling taylor smile that i cant get over, Cassidy, Michelle and Carlie just scream like the average teen girl seeing a celeb, but as soon and seth and girl's eyes meet the smiles wipe off of their faces and they are walking towards eachother in a trance. they hold their hands out to eachother. then just stand there pressed against eachother staring into eachothers eyes and start to smile wildley. seth smiles that GEORGEOUS taylor smile and girl smiles just like some girl deeply in love. this is true love. Erin Jaquleen (Jack-leen) This is when Seth comes back and finds her in outside study hall as school. she is broken and almost dead. The swift wind blew my hair into swirls around my face. I couldn't even look at my english book anymore. I was jealous of Romeo and Juliet. Juliet could just die and leave the world where true love is gone forever. Romeo could do the same, so, why couldn't I? How is it that all bad happens to good people? My Romeo was gone forever. He was never comming back, and I would never be whole again. I was better off dead. "Erin?" the voice that brought me heaven whispered from behind me. My eyes opened to see my angel looking down tenderly at my face. My eyes widened and my mouth opened, disbelieving. "Seth?" I whispered. I stood to take his hand in mine. The touch of his warm skin filled the empty pool of me with soul. By now, everyone was staring at us. We didn't even notice, we only knew eachother. Seth put his hands on my waist and pulled me closer to him. "I couldn't loose you." he told me in a barely audible whisper, "I coudn't be away from you, even if a gun was to my head." I wrapped my arms around his muscular form as he leaned in slowly to kiss me as if it was only for the first time. My back slowly pressed against the brick wall of the school as we still gently kissed, enjoying the fact that we were forever inseperable. Forever. Nothing could take Romeo from Juliet again. thx 4 ur answers guys. they were all pretty good ill focus on what you guys said and try to improve it! ill change the wording and stuff. (oh and none of my characters are perfect. then all have big flaws. e.g. seth is a hot head and can be sort of a jerk) again, thanks the answers were much apreciated

Is this description of a dream (it's a part of the story I am writing) good/intense enough? The beginning of this dream has become indistinguishable to my memory during the time it has taken me to commence writing of it. Whichever way it came about, I witnessed myself lying on this bed that for the present period of time belongs to me, my face turned towards the door as I rested on my right side. Suddenly, the door opened and a young woman, the same young woman I had pursued days and nights ago marched inside. The noise was great enough to wake me and I saw that she was moving in rapid haste as she shut the door behind her. With her arms out of my sight behind her back, she leaned on the door and pointed her eyes in my direction for a slight second. Her gaze did not relax on me but promptly shifted to an unseen position in the ceiling. As I ached to see that which her pupils were seeking, it became lucid as ice to me that she was not seeing anything that sight can offer. Her eyes requested You and her lips began to move about in a silent but grievous plea. Once I became assured that the whole of this dream would be observing the youthful human while she entreated You to assist her on her journey in some variety of imperative means, the movement of her jaw bones ceased and her eyes set on me again, the deep green spheres perforating my whole essence. She stared for seconds, for minutes and hours and days and months and years and still she melted my soul, ‘til there was naught but a puddle of helplessness left. Finally, seeing me feeble and mystified, her voice poured through the air, intertwining the threads of sound in the most musical way possible. It reached my ears at a stupefying pace and the song it sung said, “You can’t help me. But only you may listen. Tell me, what is this world, if not a place abundant with people who sit in a monotonous state of being, opting for satisfactory days instead of the happiness everyone can acquire? “So grand a distance awaiting our footprints, such a great number of souls awaiting a reticent touch of the tip of our fingers, yet we choose to believe love will find us. Why not search for love, search the mountains, the wastelands, the forests, all that cries our names? It is not to be taken lightly, something we all may have. “Love is a gift, one that I shall die without.” Then, without a single blink of the green sensation that must be fascinating for any observer, she walked to my bedside and placed her hand on my chest, precisely where the heart lies. Closing her eyes, she inhaled with great intensity and pressed her fingers more firmly onto my skin. Though I did not recognize the situation, my hand slowly came to rest on top of hers. My act brought forth a smile on her face, yet she pulled her hand away in the same instant. I felt myself nearing the need to protest and to beg for the return of her touch when she reached for her dress with both hands. Her fingers seized the straps that rested delicately on her shoulders and she slid them off, exposing her torso to me entirely. She reached for my hand and brought it to her chest. I felt her beating heart directly underneath my fingers so stalwartly that I believed it to be thumping in every inch of my own body. “The blood that runs through this heart is poison.” And with these words, the young woman dissolved into a clear mist and my dream ended. Please point out any faulty grammar or punctuation use. Bonnie...to be honest, that's exactly what I was fearing. But you're probably right. Well K H, judging from your comment here, your opinion would be worth very little anyway :)

Should TEACHERS PACK SOME HEAT IN DANGEROUS SCHOOLS? (Share your thoughts)? Michigan Lawmaker Proposes Teachers Be Allowed To Carry Guns In Classrooms September 10, 2007 9:46 a.m. EST Ayinde O. Chase - AHN Staff Grand Rapids, MI (AHN) - Rep. David Agema, a lawmaker from Michigan is proposing a new bill that would allow teachers to be armed with guns. The rationale for the proposal is that teachers need guns to defend students from attacks by both terrorists and other students. Agema, a Republican from West Michigan, said he believes the measure would save lives, the UPI report on Monday. "Right now, the only people who enter school with guns are people who intend to do harm," Agema was quoted as saying by The Grand Rapids (Mich.) Press. "I believe it will save lives if a kid or somebody comes into a school and starts shooting again." Apparently he's not alone; the measure has garnered support from 15 other House members. However school officials whose schools the guns would be in are horrified by the suggestion that teachers need to be packing heat in schoolrooms. I'm just left speechless by this," Grand Rapids Superintendent Bernard Taylor was quoted as saying by the Grand Rapids Press. "It hurts to hear we've come to this, that we're so afraid of children that we think we need to be armed to work with them." He continued, "If that's what we've come to, I need to find a new line of work." According to Agema`s bill the legislation would allow teachers, administrators or other school employees to carry concealed weapons on school grounds if they have a state permit to carry one and have permission from their school administrator.

help with this? On August 19, 2003, The Grand Rapids Press reported new discount rates on Treasury bills. A 3-month $10,000 bill sold for $9,976.10. What was the percent return to the investor? Round to the nearest hundredth percent.

Do you think a Gay Man should be able to sue what is written in the Bible? A homosexual man is suing a major Christian publisher for violating his constitutional rights and causing emotional pain, because its Bible versions refer to homosexuality as a sin. Bradley LaShawn Fowler, 39, of Canton, Mich., is seeking $60 million from Zondervan and another $10 million from Thomas Nelson Publishing in lawsuits filed in U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, the Grand Rapids Press reported. Fowler filed his claim against Grand Rapids-based Zondervan yesterday, alleging its Bibles' references to homosexuality as a sin have made him an outcast from his family and contributed to physical discomfort and periods of "demoralization, chaos and bewilderment," the paper said http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=69147

Should TEACHERS PACK SOME HEAT IN DANGEROUS SCHOOLS? (Share your thoughts)? Michigan Lawmaker Proposes Teachers Be Allowed To Carry Guns In Classrooms September 10, 2007 9:46 a.m. EST Ayinde O. Chase - AHN Staff Grand Rapids, MI (AHN) - Rep. David Agema, a lawmaker from Michigan is proposing a new bill that would allow teachers to be armed with guns. The rationale for the proposal is that teachers need guns to defend students from attacks by both terrorists and other students. Agema, a Republican from West Michigan, said he believes the measure would save lives, the UPI report on Monday. "Right now, the only people who enter school with guns are people who intend to do harm," Agema was quoted as saying by The Grand Rapids (Mich.) Press. "I believe it will save lives if a kid or somebody comes into a school and starts shooting again." Apparently he's not alone; the measure has garnered support from 15 other House members. However school officials whose schools the guns would be in are horrified by the suggestion that teachers need to be packing heat in schoolrooms. I'm just left speechless by this," Grand Rapids Superintendent Bernard Taylor was quoted as saying by the Grand Rapids Press. "It hurts to hear we've come to this, that we're so afraid of children that we think we need to be armed to work with them." He continued, "If that's what we've come to, I need to find a new line of work." According to Agema`s bill the legislation would allow teachers, administrators or other school employees to carry concealed weapons on school grounds if they have a state permit to carry one and have permission from their school administrator.

Why do these Greek scholars translate John 1:1 "..and the word was a god"? or "divine" or "deity"? W. E. Vine - "a god was the Word" - p. 490, An Expository Dictionary of the New Testament. C. H. Dodd - "The Word was a god" - Technical Papers for the Bible Translator, Jan., 1977. Murray J. Harris - "the Word was a god" - p. 60, Jesus as God, Baker Book House, 1992. Robert Young - "and a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word" - Young's Concise Critical Bible Commentary. "And the Word was divine." - An American Translation, 19th impr., 1975. “and the word was a god” (Newcome, 1808) “the Word was God’s” (Crellius,as quoted in The New Testament in an Improved Version) “and the Word was a divine being.” (La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel,1928) “the Logos was a god (John Samuel Thompson, The Montessoran; or The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists, Baltimore; published by the translator, 1829) “the Word was divine” (Goodspeed’s An American Translation, 1939) “the word was a god.” (Revised Version-Improved and Corrected) “and god[-ly/-like] was the Word.” (Prof. Felix Just, S.J. - Loyola Marymount University) “the Logos was divine” (Moffatt’s The Bible, 1972) “the Word was God*[ftn. or Deity, Divine, which is a better translation, because the Greek definite article is not present before this Greek word] (International English Bible-Extreme New Testament, 2001) “and the Word was a god” (Reijnier Rooleeuw, M.D. -The New Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, translated from the Greek, 1694) “[A]s a god the Command was” (Hermann Heinfetter, A Literal Translation of the New Testament,1863) “The Word was a God” (Abner Kneeland-The New Testament in Greek and English, 1822) “[A]nd a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word” (Robert Young, LL.D. (Concise Commentary on the Holy Bible [Grand Rapids: Baker, n.d.], 54). 1885) “the Word was a god” (Belsham N.T. 1809) “And the logos was a god” (Leicester Ambrose, The Final Theology, Volume 1, New York, New York; M.B. Sawyer and Company, 1879) “the Word was Deistic [=The Word was Godly] (Charles A.L. Totten, The Gospel of History, 1900) ”[A]nd was a god” (J.N. Jannaris, Zeitschrift fur die Newtestameutlich Wissencraft, (German periodical) 1901, International Bible Translators N.T. 1981) “[A] Divine Person.” (Samuel Clarke, M.A., D.D., rector of St. James, Westminster, A Paraphrase on the Gospel of John, London) “a God” (Lant Carpenter, LL.D (in Unitarianism in the Gospels [London: C. Stower, 1809], 156).) “a God” (Paul Wernle,(in The Beginnings of Christianity, vol. 1, The Rise of Religion [1903], 16).) “and the [Marshal] [Word] was a god.” (21st Century Literal) [A]nd (a) God was the word” (George William Horner, The Coptic Version of the New Testament, 1911) “[A]nd the Word was of divine nature” (Ernest Findlay Scott, The Literature of the New Testament, New York, Columbia University Press, 1932) [T]he Word was a God” (James L. Tomanec, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, 1958) “The Word had the same nature as God” (Philip Harner, JBL, Vol. 92, 1974) “And a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word” (Siegfried Schulz, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1975) “and godlike sort was the Logos” (Johannes Schneider, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1978) “the Word was a divine Being” (Scholar’s Version-The Five Gospels, 1993) “The Divine word and wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was” (J. Madsen, New Testament A Rendering , 1994) “a God/god was the Logos/logos” (Jurgen Becker, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1979) “The Word/word was itself a divine Being/being.” (Curt Stage, The New Testament, 1907) “the Word was of divine kind” (Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology), 1945) “was of divine Kind/kind” (Fredrich Pfaefflin, The New Testament, 1949) “godlike Being/being had the Word/word” (Albrecht, 1957) “the word of the world was a divine being” (Smit, 1960) “God(=godlike Being/being) was the Word/word” (Menge, 1961) “divine (of the category divinity)was the Logos” (Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk), 1984) “And the Word was divine.” (William Temple, Archbishop of York, Readings in St. John’s Gospel, London, Macmillan & Co.,1933) “the word was with Allah[God] and the word was a god” (Greek Orthodox /Arabic Calendar, incorporating portions of the 4 Gospels, Greek Orthodox Patriarchy or Beirut, May, 1983) “And the Word was Divine” (Ervin Edward Stringfellow (Prof. of NT Language and Literature/Drake University, 1943) “and the Logos was divine (a divine being)” (Robert Harvey, D.D., Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Westminster College, Cambridge, in The Historic Jesus in the New Testament Is it only Trinitarians "scholars" who insist that John 1:1 should be translated "and the word was God"? Why do all these scholars above agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses? There are many more Greek scholars who agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses, but the space is limited here on Yahoo Answers. Now... please, think things through. Why do these greek scholars disagree with the majority of Trinitarian greek "scholars" on how to translate this key scripture that "proves" that Jesus is God?

Why do these Greek scholars translate John 1:1 "..and the word was a god"? or "divine" or "deity"? W. E. Vine - "a god was the Word" - p. 490, An Expository Dictionary of the New Testament. C. H. Dodd - "The Word was a god" - Technical Papers for the Bible Translator, Jan., 1977. Murray J. Harris - "the Word was a god" - p. 60, Jesus as God, Baker Book House, 1992. Robert Young - "and a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word" - Young's Concise Critical Bible Commentary. "And the Word was divine." - An American Translation, 19th impr., 1975. “and the word was a god” (Newcome, 1808) “the Word was God’s” (Crellius,as quoted in The New Testament in an Improved Version) “and the Word was a divine being.” (La Bible du Centenaire, L’Evangile selon Jean, by Maurice Goguel,1928) “the Logos was a god (John Samuel Thompson, The Montessoran; or The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists, Baltimore; published by the translator, 1829) “the Word was divine” (Goodspeed’s An American Translation, 1939) “the word was a god.” (Revised Version-Improved and Corrected) “and god[-ly/-like] was the Word.” (Prof. Felix Just, S.J. - Loyola Marymount University) “the Logos was divine” (Moffatt’s The Bible, 1972) “the Word was God*[ftn. or Deity, Divine, which is a better translation, because the Greek definite article is not present before this Greek word] (International English Bible-Extreme New Testament, 2001) “and the Word was a god” (Reijnier Rooleeuw, M.D. -The New Testament of Our Lord Jesus Christ, translated from the Greek, 1694) “[A]s a god the Command was” (Hermann Heinfetter, A Literal Translation of the New Testament,1863) “The Word was a God” (Abner Kneeland-The New Testament in Greek and English, 1822) “[A]nd a God (i.e. a Divine Being) was the Word” (Robert Young, LL.D. (Concise Commentary on the Holy Bible [Grand Rapids: Baker, n.d.], 54). 1885) “the Word was a god” (Belsham N.T. 1809) “And the logos was a god” (Leicester Ambrose, The Final Theology, Volume 1, New York, New York; M.B. Sawyer and Company, 1879) “the Word was Deistic [=The Word was Godly] (Charles A.L. Totten, The Gospel of History, 1900) ”[A]nd was a god” (J.N. Jannaris, Zeitschrift fur die Newtestameutlich Wissencraft, (German periodical) 1901, International Bible Translators N.T. 1981) “[A] Divine Person.” (Samuel Clarke, M.A., D.D., rector of St. James, Westminster, A Paraphrase on the Gospel of John, London) “a God” (Lant Carpenter, LL.D (in Unitarianism in the Gospels [London: C. Stower, 1809], 156).) “a God” (Paul Wernle,(in The Beginnings of Christianity, vol. 1, The Rise of Religion [1903], 16).) “and the [Marshal] [Word] was a god.” (21st Century Literal) [A]nd (a) God was the word” (George William Horner, The Coptic Version of the New Testament, 1911) “[A]nd the Word was of divine nature” (Ernest Findlay Scott, The Literature of the New Testament, New York, Columbia University Press, 1932) [T]he Word was a God” (James L. Tomanec, The New Testament of our Lord and Savior Jesus Anointed, 1958) “The Word had the same nature as God” (Philip Harner, JBL, Vol. 92, 1974) “And a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word” (Siegfried Schulz, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1975) “and godlike sort was the Logos” (Johannes Schneider, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1978) “the Word was a divine Being” (Scholar’s Version-The Five Gospels, 1993) “The Divine word and wisdom was there with God, and it was what God was” (J. Madsen, New Testament A Rendering , 1994) “a God/god was the Logos/logos” (Jurgen Becker, Das Evangelium nach Johannes, 1979) “The Word/word was itself a divine Being/being.” (Curt Stage, The New Testament, 1907) “the Word was of divine kind” (Lyder Brun (Norw. professor of NT theology), 1945) “was of divine Kind/kind” (Fredrich Pfaefflin, The New Testament, 1949) “godlike Being/being had the Word/word” (Albrecht, 1957) “the word of the world was a divine being” (Smit, 1960) “God(=godlike Being/being) was the Word/word” (Menge, 1961) “divine (of the category divinity)was the Logos” (Haenchen (tr. By R. Funk), 1984) “And the Word was divine.” (William Temple, Archbishop of York, Readings in St. John’s Gospel, London, Macmillan & Co.,1933) “the word was with Allah[God] and the word was a god” (Greek Orthodox /Arabic Calendar, incorporating portions of the 4 Gospels, Greek Orthodox Patriarchy or Beirut, May, 1983) “And the Word was Divine” (Ervin Edward Stringfellow (Prof. of NT Language and Literature/Drake University, 1943) “and the Logos was divine (a divine being)” (Robert Harvey, D.D., Professor of New Testament Language and Literature, Westminster College, Cambridge, in The Historic Jesus in the New Testament Is it only Trinitarians "scholars" who insist that John 1:1 should be translated "and the word was God"? Why do all these scholars above agree with the Jehovah's Why do all these scholars above agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses? There are many more Greek scholars who agree with the Jehovah's Witnesses, but the space is limited here on Yahoo Answers.